Friday, November 17, 2006

pointers

What should've been a study session for Psychological Statistics turned into a full-blown battle of the sexes. 6 girls on 1 boy. Our male friend- 6'5, skinny, well-dressed, buys pizza for the class, stand-up comedian, likes playing the piano, "macking", and supposedly likes classy girls- decided to study in the same room in which he learned the material- where we were having a study group. From talking about the central limit theorem to Castellano Spanish, we somehow got onto his tendency to pick up not-so-classy girls. Here are a few of the issues discussed:

  1. Men in LDS culture are made to feel inferior to women- ie. general conference always praising women, pointing out problems with men: pornography, abuse, etc. As well as the mentality that it is necessary for men to serve missions in order for them to be at the "same level" as women.
  2. It is not bad to "mack" on girl. Kiss as many people as you want. In the end you'll be happy with whomever you settle down with.
  3. It isn't using people if all you want to do is make-out with them. The earlier a girl gives you that, the shorter the relationship. But it's not using someone for physical gratification. You've already won the prize.
  4. Make women feel inferior, because they'll try so much harder to build themselves up to impress you (this is proven in most contemporary dating books). Those who don't fall for it are smart- or just hate you and think you're a horrible, male chauvinist. And those who do, you've got a nice short-term relationship (good for "macking").
  5. Stupid girls are a turn off (although following the last conversation/fight they had she said, "Shut up. Dumb A**" and walked away. This same girl was "classy" according to him.
  6. Every guy is looking for a classy girl. (Although he told all of the girls in the group that they were classy- let me state, he would never ask one of us out.)
A few definitions that need clarification:
  • classy: someone who is confident, intelligent, educated, kind, well-rounded, orderly, elegant, and polite.
    • Definition does not include ill-manners such as ditziness, skankiness, language that proves inability to communicate feelings, williness to "mack" at any moment, and intelligence of a 4 year old
  • macking: an activity performed to a) feel secure about ones sexuality b) in a no- or little-committment relationship (if it can be considered that) c) boost self-esteem (which might work until you receive 4 am phone calls requesting the same activity. No conversation, no concern, just feeling lusted after for a good hour or so- but at least someone needs/wants you)
Heather's rebuttal:
  1. Men have blamed, time and time again, this "natural man" idea. One core belief in our faith, is that we are able to overcome the natural man and with that, natural tendencies. We are capable of control.
  2. There is a double standard that exists for men and women. Women seen as the "gatekeepers" of their sexuality are supposed to keep out unwanted advances, whereas men are "unable to control themselves." Socialization? or Biology? I go for socialization with an ever-so-slight hint of biology.
  3. Any behavior, dating or otherwise, that is degrading to women and makes them feel inferior is inappropriate for any reason.
  4. If you're looking for a classy girl and your actions indicate otherwise, don't expect them to come crawling. We leave that for the ones you're dating.
  5. Your actions are a tell-tale sign of the kind of person you are and the kind of person you want to date.

2 comments:

my ghostwriter said...

Amen. I think where this kid is really confused is his double standard. He wants to date classy ladies but he likes to kiss girls at random. Those two ideas don't easily co-exist.

Nate H. said...

Tell that kid he's a boner. He makes it harder for the rest of us.